{"id":8706,"date":"2023-09-14T17:24:20","date_gmt":"2023-09-14T15:24:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tvxdcue.cluster031.hosting.ovh.net\/Site_wb_crl10\/?p=8706"},"modified":"2026-01-22T16:26:47","modified_gmt":"2026-01-22T15:26:47","slug":"entretien-avec-jan-schmidt-whitley","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.crl10.net\/index.php\/2023\/09\/14\/entretien-avec-jan-schmidt-whitley\/","title":{"rendered":"Entretien avec Jan Schmidt-Whitley"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"8706\" class=\"elementor elementor-8706\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-68fa7ed2 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"68fa7ed2\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-1d747e63\" data-id=\"1d747e63\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7cb14c9e elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"7cb14c9e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.22.0 - 26-06-2024 *\/\n.elementor-column .elementor-spacer-inner{height:var(--spacer-size)}.e-con{--container-widget-width:100%}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer{width:var(--container-widget-width,var(--spacer-size));--align-self:var(--container-widget-align-self,initial);--flex-shrink:0}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container{height:100%;width:100%}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container>.elementor-spacer,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container>.elementor-spacer{height:100%}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container>.elementor-spacer>.elementor-spacer-inner,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container>.elementor-spacer>.elementor-spacer-inner{height:var(--container-widget-height,var(--spacer-size))}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer.elementor-widget-empty,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer.elementor-widget-empty{position:relative;min-height:22px;min-width:22px}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer.elementor-widget-empty .elementor-widget-empty-icon,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer.elementor-widget-empty .elementor-widget-empty-icon{position:absolute;top:0;bottom:0;left:0;right:0;margin:auto;padding:0;width:22px;height:22px}<\/style>\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-736caf0b elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"736caf0b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.22.0 - 26-06-2024 *\/\n.elementor-heading-title{padding:0;margin:0;line-height:1}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title[class*=elementor-size-]>a{color:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-small{font-size:15px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-medium{font-size:19px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-large{font-size:29px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-xl{font-size:39px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-xxl{font-size:59px}<\/style><p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-medium\">Le photographe Jan Schmidt Whitley entame, en 2015, un travail sur les bouleversements qui traversent la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 turque, s\u2019attachant particuli\u00e8rement \u00e0 la question kurde et aux m\u00e9caniques de d\u00e9stabilisation qui touchent la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 civile. En 2017, il pr\u00e9sente sa s\u00e9rie et son travail \u00e0 Escale. \n<\/p>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-3e0f7a01 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"3e0f7a01\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-54945e8a\" data-id=\"54945e8a\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5d993f07 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"5d993f07\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4ddde8bc elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"4ddde8bc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-large\">Apr\u00e8s trois mois de combats, reprendre une vie normale<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-d4e7af8 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"d4e7af8\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-2c140f6\" data-id=\"2c140f6\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-58626805 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"58626805\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.22.0 - 26-06-2024 *\/\n.elementor-widget-text-editor.elementor-drop-cap-view-stacked .elementor-drop-cap{background-color:#69727d;color:#fff}.elementor-widget-text-editor.elementor-drop-cap-view-framed .elementor-drop-cap{color:#69727d;border:3px solid;background-color:transparent}.elementor-widget-text-editor:not(.elementor-drop-cap-view-default) .elementor-drop-cap{margin-top:8px}.elementor-widget-text-editor:not(.elementor-drop-cap-view-default) .elementor-drop-cap-letter{width:1em;height:1em}.elementor-widget-text-editor .elementor-drop-cap{float:left;text-align:center;line-height:1;font-size:50px}.elementor-widget-text-editor .elementor-drop-cap-letter{display:inline-block}<\/style>\t\t\t\t<p>Cette photographie (premi\u00e8re photographie) a \u00e9t\u00e9 prise au printemps\u00a02016, dans une ville du Kurdistan turc, \u00e0 une soixantaine de kilom\u00e8tres de la fronti\u00e8re syrienne. \u00c0 l&rsquo;\u00e9poque, des s\u00e9paratistes kurdes \u2012\u2009li\u00e9s au Parti des travailleurs du Kurdistan (PKK)\u2009\u2012 avaient d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de s&rsquo;installer dans les villes et de d\u00e9clarer des zones libres. L&rsquo;arm\u00e9e turque est intervenue assez rapidement et des combats acharn\u00e9s ont dur\u00e9 plusieurs mois.<\/p><p>Ce reportage a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9alis\u00e9 le premier jour et les jours suivant le retour des habitants \u00e0 Cizre, apr\u00e8s trois mois de si\u00e8ge et de combats.\u00a0Nous attendions depuis longtemps l&rsquo;ouverture <br \/>de la ville. Lorsque nous avons appris qu\u2019elle rouvrait, nous nous sommes pr\u00e9cipit\u00e9s. Nous sommes parmi les premiers \u00e0 \u00eatre entr\u00e9s.<\/p><p>Il y a quelques ann\u00e9es, si l&rsquo;on m&rsquo;avait demand\u00e9 de s\u00e9lectionner une seule photographie pour en parler, je n\u2019aurais pas choisi celle-ci. Ce reportage est surtout constitu\u00e9 d&rsquo;images de destructions et de d\u00e9solation. Puis le temps passe et on voit les choses diff\u00e9remment.<\/p><p>Ici, une femme et deux enfants sont en train de prendre un repas dans un b\u00e2timent compl\u00e8tement d\u00e9truit. C&rsquo;est une des rares photos de vie de ce reportage, o\u00f9 des personnes essaient de reprendre une \u00ab\u2009vie normale\u2009\u00bb. Elle est marquante et importante. Il est difficile de prendre des photos de d\u00e9vastation, mais il est encore plus complexe de montrer la vie, l\u00e0 o\u00f9 il y en a peu.<\/p><p>Les habitants n\u2019avaient pas le droit de dormir sur place. Ils venaient uniquement la journ\u00e9e, constataient les pertes et sauvaient ce qu&rsquo;ils pouvaient sauver. Petit \u00e0 petit, ils essayaient <br \/>de reprendre possession des lieux. Le premier jour, ils d\u00e9couvraient l&rsquo;ampleur des d\u00e9g\u00e2ts. <br \/>Tous les moments se ressemblent plus ou moins, on d\u00e9ambule dans une ville compl\u00e8tement d\u00e9truite, on marche sur des gravats, puis l&rsquo;on se rend compte que c&rsquo;\u00e9tait un immeuble. On rentre dans des appartements, des maisons vides. Un sentiment g\u00e9n\u00e9ral s\u2019impose. S\u2019impose \u00e9galement l&rsquo;imp\u00e9ratif de t\u00e9moigner. Il est difficile de ne pas ressentir d&#8217;empathie pour ces personnes qui ont tout perdu, dans l&rsquo;indiff\u00e9rence globale de la communaut\u00e9 internationale.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-51920e16 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"51920e16\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-1fa48ffd\" data-id=\"1fa48ffd\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-75709c29 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"75709c29\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4f30b3bd elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"4f30b3bd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-large\">Le d\u00e9sir d'apprendre en se rapprochant des gens<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-30bd585a elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"30bd585a\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-9c271aa\" data-id=\"9c271aa\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7161c30e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7161c30e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>J&rsquo;ai longuement travaill\u00e9 dans le d\u00e9veloppement international, au contact des gens. Je suis quelqu&rsquo;un de tr\u00e8s curieux. Ce m\u00e9tier me permet de poser beaucoup de questions, \u00e0 des personnes qui sont la plupart du temps contentes de r\u00e9pondre, de t\u00e9moigner. Concernant les sujets plus personnels, me motive surtout le d\u00e9sir d&rsquo;apprendre sur des situations, des contextes que je ne connais pas forc\u00e9ment initialement, et de t\u00e9moigner sur des choses que je suis amen\u00e9 \u00e0 voir. Concernant les commandes ou les piges que peuvent demander des magazines, il y a un int\u00e9r\u00eat journalistique, mais l&rsquo;implication personnelle est diff\u00e9rente.<\/p><p>C&rsquo;est toujours d\u00e9licat de mener ses propres reportages d&rsquo;un point de vue financier, mais cela donne une certaine libert\u00e9 et permet de faire les choses \u00e0 son rythme. Je fais des interviews, j&rsquo;ai un enregistreur, j&rsquo;ai commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00e9crire aussi r\u00e9cemment. Mes reportages ne sont plus seulement photographiques, il s&rsquo;agit d&rsquo;un v\u00e9ritable travail d&rsquo;enqu\u00eate.<\/p><p>Par ce m\u00e9tier, j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 confront\u00e9 \u00e0 des situations tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rentes de celles que j\u2019ai pu vivre enfant. Fondamentalement, je ne pense pas que l&rsquo;\u00eatre humain soit tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rent, quelles que soient les \u00e9poques ou les zones g\u00e9ographiques, du 16e arrondissement de Paris au Burundi. Ce sont les contextes et les conditions qui varient, mais les personnes r\u00e9agissent plus ou moins de mani\u00e8re identique. 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