{"id":8694,"date":"2023-09-14T17:03:35","date_gmt":"2023-09-14T15:03:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tvxdcue.cluster031.hosting.ovh.net\/Site_wb_crl10\/?p=8694"},"modified":"2026-01-22T16:23:31","modified_gmt":"2026-01-22T15:23:31","slug":"entretien-avec-livia-saavedra","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.crl10.net\/index.php\/2023\/09\/14\/entretien-avec-livia-saavedra\/","title":{"rendered":"Entretien avec Livia Saavedra"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"8694\" class=\"elementor elementor-8694\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-3d07ee26 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"3d07ee26\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-6b6fcdf9\" data-id=\"6b6fcdf9\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-24c83c3c elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"24c83c3c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.22.0 - 26-06-2024 *\/\n.elementor-column .elementor-spacer-inner{height:var(--spacer-size)}.e-con{--container-widget-width:100%}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer{width:var(--container-widget-width,var(--spacer-size));--align-self:var(--container-widget-align-self,initial);--flex-shrink:0}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container{height:100%;width:100%}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container>.elementor-spacer,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container>.elementor-spacer{height:100%}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container>.elementor-spacer>.elementor-spacer-inner,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer>.elementor-widget-container>.elementor-spacer>.elementor-spacer-inner{height:var(--container-widget-height,var(--spacer-size))}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer.elementor-widget-empty,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer.elementor-widget-empty{position:relative;min-height:22px;min-width:22px}.e-con-inner>.elementor-widget-spacer.elementor-widget-empty .elementor-widget-empty-icon,.e-con>.elementor-widget-spacer.elementor-widget-empty .elementor-widget-empty-icon{position:absolute;top:0;bottom:0;left:0;right:0;margin:auto;padding:0;width:22px;height:22px}<\/style>\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2064a736 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"2064a736\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.22.0 - 26-06-2024 *\/\n.elementor-heading-title{padding:0;margin:0;line-height:1}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title[class*=elementor-size-]>a{color:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-small{font-size:15px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-medium{font-size:19px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-large{font-size:29px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-xl{font-size:39px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-xxl{font-size:59px}<\/style><p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-medium\">Entre septembre 2015 et f\u00e9vrier 2016, Livia Saavedra, photographe, s\u2019est rendue plusieurs fois en Gr\u00e8ce. Elle y rencontre des b\u00e9n\u00e9voles et WAHA International qui tentent d\u2019aider les r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s suite \u00e0 leur travers\u00e9e de la M\u00e9diterran\u00e9e. A la suite de ses voyages, une s\u00e9rie de photos prend vie. L\u2019objectif est avant tout de faire conna\u00eetre \u00e0 tous la situation des r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s et des demandeurs d\u2019asile en Europe. Aujourd\u2019hui, Livia revient sur son exp\u00e9rience. \n<\/p>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-21a44152 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"21a44152\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-27c379d4\" data-id=\"27c379d4\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-47306a36 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"47306a36\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f114646 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"f114646\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-large\">Un \u00e9lan po\u00e9tique au coeur d'un sujet douloureux<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-1f91279d elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"1f91279d\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-2aceb2e6\" data-id=\"2aceb2e6\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-18e48646 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"18e48646\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.22.0 - 26-06-2024 *\/\n.elementor-widget-text-editor.elementor-drop-cap-view-stacked .elementor-drop-cap{background-color:#69727d;color:#fff}.elementor-widget-text-editor.elementor-drop-cap-view-framed .elementor-drop-cap{color:#69727d;border:3px solid;background-color:transparent}.elementor-widget-text-editor:not(.elementor-drop-cap-view-default) .elementor-drop-cap{margin-top:8px}.elementor-widget-text-editor:not(.elementor-drop-cap-view-default) .elementor-drop-cap-letter{width:1em;height:1em}.elementor-widget-text-editor .elementor-drop-cap{float:left;text-align:center;line-height:1;font-size:50px}.elementor-widget-text-editor .elementor-drop-cap-letter{display:inline-block}<\/style>\t\t\t\t<p>Il y a une sorte d&rsquo;envol\u00e9e de ces enfants qui courent autour du feu, dans la lumi\u00e8re de l&rsquo;aube\u2009: cette photographie n\u2019est pas malheureuse. L\u2019\u00e9lan po\u00e9tique qui s\u2019en d\u00e9gage me pla\u00eet. \u00c0 cette \u00e9poque j\u2019avais beaucoup de travail gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 l\u2019ONG WAHA International, pour laquelle je suis partie \u00e0 Belgrade en 2015. J&rsquo;ai pass\u00e9 trois semaines entre la capitale serbe, Horgo\u0161 et Lesbos. Puis en f\u00e9vrier, je me suis rendue sur l&rsquo;\u00eele de Chios et sur le camp d\u2019Idomeni. Je ne sais pas si j&rsquo;aurais couvert la crise des r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s de mon propre chef. \u00c9tant enfant de r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s, cela a toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 pour moi un th\u00e8me douloureux. <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-c25db56 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"c25db56\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-2781d1d5\" data-id=\"2781d1d5\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3ab2d595 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"3ab2d595\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-37bd79ce elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"37bd79ce\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-large\">Au d\u00e9l\u00e0 de la photographie, l'humain<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-192c8132 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"192c8132\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-2ab28450\" data-id=\"2ab28450\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-67beb66b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"67beb66b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>L&rsquo;\u00e9quipe de l&rsquo;ONG prodiguait aux r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s des soins m\u00e9dicaux. Nous sommes rest\u00e9s peu de temps \u00e0 Idomeni, cr\u00e9ant ainsi peu de contact. Les gens n&rsquo;avaient pas tellement de temps \u00e0 nous accorder, c&rsquo;\u00e9tait la course pour franchir les fronti\u00e8res. Leur objectif \u00e9tait de passer rapidement la fronti\u00e8re suivante. Ils arrivaient \u00e0 Lesbos par canots, puis ils devaient parcourir une vingtaine de kilom\u00e8tres avant d&rsquo;acc\u00e9der aux premiers camps. C&rsquo;\u00e9tait l&rsquo;urgence.<br \/>La difficult\u00e9 majeure \u00e9tait de trouver un angle. C&rsquo;\u00e9tait une crise in\u00e9dite et comme je travaillais avec une ONG, je n&rsquo;avais pas toute la libert\u00e9 que je souhaitais. R\u00e9trospectivement, je pense qu&rsquo;il aurait fallu suivre des familles, ce qui \u00e9tait alors complexe pour moi. C&rsquo;\u00e9tait aussi une des premi\u00e8res crises o\u00f9 j&rsquo;ai vu photographes et journalistes, \u00e0 un moment, arr\u00eater de faire leur travail et aider les gens. C&rsquo;est quelque chose qui m&rsquo;a beaucoup marqu\u00e9e.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-68460cc elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"68460cc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-large\">Faire le r\u00e9cit de la vie des gens<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-404f152 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"404f152\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Je n&rsquo;y suis jamais retourn\u00e9e, mais ces camps sont devenus des prisons \u00e0 ciel ouvert, notamment l&rsquo;ann\u00e9e derni\u00e8re, au moment de l&rsquo;incendie du camp de Lesbos. Cela devait malheureusement arriver. Le camp de Chios a br\u00fbl\u00e9 lui aussi, peu de temps apr\u00e8s, en 2016. Quand on amoncelle tant de familles, tant de personnes avec des histoires aussi \u00e9prouvantes, dans des conditions sanitaires effroyables, il est \u00e9vident qu&rsquo;\u00e0 un moment, cela explose. L&rsquo;Europe s&rsquo;est compl\u00e8tement d\u00e9charg\u00e9e sur la Gr\u00e8ce et l&rsquo;Italie, les laissant g\u00e9rer l&rsquo;ensemble de cette crise.<\/p><p>J&rsquo;aime raconter des histoires, faire le r\u00e9cit de la vie des gens. Ayant des parents r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s politiques argentins fortement engag\u00e9s, je n&rsquo;aurais pas pu ne pas m&rsquo;engager, quelque soit la modalit\u00e9 de cet engagement. C&rsquo;est impossible pour moi de rester les bras ballants et de ne pas parler de sujets qui m&rsquo;\u00e9meuvent. Il y a plusieurs fils rouges dans mes reportages, notamment la sant\u00e9 maternelle, la sant\u00e9 des femmes et leur place dans la soci\u00e9t\u00e9. Je travaille actuellement sur les fistules (pr\u00e9sence anormale d\u2019un canal mettant en communication des visc\u00e8res, ou un visc\u00e8re et la peau). Traiter de la sant\u00e9 des femmes fait sens pour moi.<\/p><p>Je ne suis pas persuad\u00e9e que les images peuvent changer notre vision du monde. J&rsquo;ai un regard assez sombre concernant la direction qu&rsquo;il prend et la possibilit\u00e9 d\u2019agir pour le changer. En revanche, on a une obligation \u00e9thique de porter un regard sur ce qui s\u2019y passe. Depuis que je suis photoreporter, je ne peux plus \u00eatre touriste \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9tranger. Je ne con\u00e7ois plus de partir en vacances dans un pays pauvre, je ne me sentirais pas \u00e0 ma place. R\u00e9aliser des reportages est pour moi conna\u00eetre un pays par ses centres de sant\u00e9, ses h\u00f4pitaux, sa population.<\/p><p>J\u2019apprends constamment en pratiquant ce m\u00e9tier qui requiert beaucoup d\u2019\u00e9nergie, d\u2019efforts et d\u2019engagement. Mais se lancer dans le photoreportage n\u2019est pas anodin, on le fait dans <br \/>la mesure o\u00f9 l\u2019on a quelque chose \u00e0 dire.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-57cbc4d0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"57cbc4d0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-72c66cf elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"72c66cf\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-7ee1ed41\" data-id=\"7ee1ed41\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-111a3bef elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"111a3bef\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-medium\">Propos recueillis de janvier \u00e0 juillet 2021<br>\n\nEntretiens et textes r\u00e9alis\u00e9s par Ana\u00efs Deschamp<br><\/p>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Entre septembre 2015 et f\u00e9vrier 2016, Livia Saavedra, photographe, s\u2019est rendue plusieurs fois en Gr\u00e8ce. 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